In the Name of Allaah, the All Compassionate, the Ever Merciful…
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We’ve seen for years people criticizing the likes of Shaykh Rabee’ ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee (may Allaah preserve him), regarding the claim that he is not upon the way of the early critics of the Salaf – the likes of Imaams Ahmad ibn Hanbal and Yahyaa ibn Ma’een. And what they say: “His ‘foolishness’ of lavishly praising people and then abandoning them has excluded him from resembling the critics of old, and it shows that he is ‘unstable’ and his statements in criticism of people are ‘not reliable’.”
Let us begin with understanding something in this issue so that we don’t pass on and parrot things without understanding them.
True Academic Criticism in Islaam
In academic criticism in Islaam – as understood by the scholars of Jarh wa Ta’deel throughout history (النقد العلمي) [Academic criticism] – No one is beyond criticism, no one is immune from criticism, other than those who have gained immunity from Allah, i.e. they have been praised in the Qur’aan and they have been sanctified by the Book of Allah or by the revelation given to Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم), i.e. his Sunnah. Aside from that, the narrators, the teachers, the callers, the scholars themselves – all of them are subject to criticism. As one of the greatest of the scholars, al-Imaam Maalik, is so commonly quoted as saying:
مَا مِنَّا إِلاَّ رَادٌّ وَمَرْدُودٌ عَلَيْهِ
Meaning: Every single one of us (every scholar) is either criticizing / refuting, or being criticized / refuted.
That is the case of the scholars, and, of course, every writer and every caller is subject to criticism. The criticism of the scholars of Islaam is ongoing, it is mutajaddid [continuously updated], it is renewed, and it is revisited, at every possible occasion. No one from the critics of Islaam had ever agreed to the principle that – I think is understood from this questioner/complainer or others that have speech resembling this – that a person who has been praised (lavishly especially), that he is now immune from criticism, and to say that he should be abandoned or that he is weak (in his reliability) and should not be taken from, to say that after lavishly praising him is a kind of self-contradiction and it is proof of instability and lack of firmness, or lack of reliability, in the area of academic criticism. No one ever understood that.
There’s the whole issue of narrators in Islaam who went astray, narrators in Islaam that became unreliable and poor in their memory in their old age, narrators whose conditions changed, and the imaams of criticism who called them thiqah (reliable, trustworthy) before their situation changed had no problem ever and had nothing preventing them from saying either “dha’eef” (not reliable), or he’s abandoned, or he’s nothing (لا شيء) or he’s a liar (كذاب), if the situation dictated those words. No one believed that would be self-contradictory, no one believed that was tanaaqudh (contradiction). No one believed that it would be a proof of the instability of the critic. On the opposite understanding, rather, they understood that as an indication of the sincerity of the critic and that the critic is upon the right way of criticism – that he renews his criticism and that he modifies it based on the current situation or the path taken by the one being criticized.
Criticism Revisited – Example #1
So, for example, the imam, ‘Abdur-Razzaaq ibn Hammaam as-Sa’aanee – the imaam of Yemen in his time that Imaams Ahmad ibn Hanbal and Yahyaa ibn Ma’een would travel to, as well as other great scholars of hadeeth – they would travel to him to get his hadeeth. Then, somewhere around the year 200 (after Hijrah), he became blind and he became very weak in his narrations (i.e. unreliable). He would have his books that he wrote down before he was blind read to him, and he would allow mistakes to be read to him (without objecting), he would allow ahaadeeth that were not from his book to be read to him, and he would yulaqqan (he would agree and pass on everything as if it were correct). He was no longer able to distinguish his hadeeth from other people’s hadeeth. He was no longer able to distinguish the correct narrations of his own hadeeth versus the mistakes added to his books, and so on.
So, after that, the same scholars who would travel – with very little provisions and even run out of provisions on the way as you’ve heard these stories of Yahyaa ibn Ma’een and Ahmed ibn Hanbal on the way running out of provisions and encountering near-death situations to reach this imaam – they would then say about him: “laa shay'” (He’s nothing). Imaam Ahmad said about him after the year 200, “His narrations are لا شيء” (worthless, lit. nothing). And Imaam Ahmad never thought that his saying “nothing” after saying “thiqah” and “imaam,” that it would be some sign of instability. No one ever blamed him for that in the history of Islaam.
Criticism Revisited – Example #2
‘Abdul-Maalik ibn Abee Sulaymaan al-‘Arnazee – Shu’bah considered him reliable. Shu’bah ibn al-Hajjaaj – one of the most skilled critics of narrators ever – was amazed at his precision. And then when a narration – one narration! – came from him (the hadeeth of ash-Shuf’ah) – when he heard this hadeeth, he understood this hadeeth to be a mistake, and he said, “If ‘Abdul-Malik narrates another hadeeth like this, I’ll drop him,” meaning: I’ll abandon him, I’ll not narrate anything from him anymore, he doesn’t deserve to be narrated from if he makes another mistake like this. And, in the end, he ended up actually abandoning him.
And that was Shu’bah ibn al-Hajjaaj who considered him reliable yesterday; today: abandoned. Why? Because he felt the situation dictated that. His evaluation of that narrator – should he be taken from or not – was mutajaddid (continuously revisited). It was renewed, it was updated. It was something that was looked at and revisited. And he had no problem giving the opposite verdict that he used to give since the situation necessitated that. And no one blamed Shu’bah for that.
Criticism Revisited – Example #3
Similarly, the books of narrators’ biographies and criticism are full of these kinds of cases. Where Imaam Yahyaa ibn Ma’een who, because of his precision in his criticism, the extent of his criticism – every letter would be under the microscope if you were reading a hadeeth to Yahyaa ibn Ma’een. People knew that, and they were afraid of him, so when they narrated to him, they were on their P’s and Q’s. They would narrate to him in the best possible way they could. This led to a situation where – because of his reputation of being such a precise critic – you would find narrators who were not normally reliable, they would only narrate the very best and most accurate narrations in his presence, and, thus, based on this, Imaam Yahyaa ibn Ma’een would call them “thiqah”. And then later he would sometimes find out – either through his peers or from visiting that same narrator years later – that in fact he is dha’eef and he would say: “dha’eef” (unreliable). And he did not understand the idea that he was unstable in his criticism, nor did anyone else from the history of the scholars of Islaam. No one ever understood that he was contradicting himself or that he was unstable as a critic. Rather, they understood that his criticism was ongoing.
An example of this would be Aboo Hudbah Ibraaheem ibn Hudbah. Yahyaa ibn Ma’een called him “thiqah” (reliable), until he found out later that he was not honest, so he changed his stance based on what he learned about him, having no problem calling him thereafter kath-thaab khabeeth (a filthy liar)!
Criticism Revisited – Example #4
Similarly, look at this case – this is an example that might be shocking to some: Ahmad ibn Hanbal and Yahyaa ibn Ma’een. And what did Ahmad ibn Hanbal say about Yahyaa ibn Ma’een after he took the excuse during the trials of those people who were forcing the ummah to say the Qur’aan is created, may Allah grant us refuge?
When it came down to the last ‘ulamaa’ holding to the correct ‘aqeedah, Imaam Ahmad did not view it to be permissible for that last group of scholars to give in to the excuse of coercion. They had to remain firm and face whatever they face for the sake of upholding the proper ‘aqeedah. It could not be that the whole ummah just loses the ‘aqeedah because of individuals accepting the excuse of coercion, until there remained no ‘aqeedah. Rather, as a fardh kifaa’ee (a “community obligation”), some people must have upheld the correct ‘aqeedah and that is what he [Imaam Ahmad] held to and he never gave in. But Yahyaa ibn Ma’een gave in and took the excuse, and he has his excuse from the Book of Allaah, and no one blames him, and everyone makes tarahhum – O Allah! Have mercy on Yahyaa ibn Ma’een. And no one blames him or criticizes him for taking the excuse of coercion.
Ahmad ibn Hanbal was frustrated and expected better from him, being that he was from the best of the ummah. Ahmad ibn Hanbal said about him after that “لا يكتب حديثه” (his hadeeth are not to be written) meaning: he is now to be abandoned in hadeeth. After having recorded a million hadeeth – one million hadeeth! After Imaam Ahmad had said: “هذا رجل خلق الله لهذا شأن” (This is a man whom Allah has created for this field). And he said about him: “السماع منه شفاء لما في الصدور” (To hear hadeeth from Yahyaa ibn Ma’een is a cure for what ails the chests). These were his lavish praises for Yahyaa ibn Ma’een. His chosen companion for his journeys – the one he would say when he traveled without him, “I wish Yahyaa was here – he knows the hidden mistakes in the narrations. He would long for his companionship.
And after that fitnah, his stance on him was renewed. He never viewed that Yahyaa ibn Ma’een was immune from criticism because he had lavishly praised him. He never considered that now his criticising and warning against Yahyaa ibn Ma’een would be considered as “instability” or “self-contradiction.” Rather, his criticism of him was ongoing. Even if this case here is an example of a jarh (a criticism) that’s not accepted in reality, all things considered; it is an example of how they did not view anyone as being immune and no one said about Ahmad ibn Hanbal, “Look at this man! Yesterday Yahyaa ibn Ma’een is the imaam of hadeeth,” yesterday, “O! I wish I was with Yahyaa,” yesterday, “If I hear a hadeeth from him it is like a cure for what ails the heart.” And now today, “Abandoned, dropped!” – “What kind of foolishness is this?” No one in the history of Islaam ever said that about Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
Use Your Intellect and Stop Parroting Claims Recklessly
Think and reflect. Look at the qawaa’id (the principles), the dhawaabit (the guidelines) understood by the critics of Islaam throughout history. And don’t say things out of your mouth that you just parrot from silly websites that are just people chatting away – students of knowledge who failed themselves, and failed their ummah, doomed to hide behind fake internet identities for the rest of their lives, condemned to writing under screen names on shameless forums of slander, pouring out the rancor and evil that is in their deadened hearts against Ahlus-Sunnah, the imaams of Ahlus-Sunnah, the scholars, the students of the scholars, and the callers to their way. They spend their lives chatting away, slandering, attacking, trying to find any possible avenue to discredit them. If you went to those websites, you would understand for sure that this is some kind of established principle: “Look at this self-contradiction of Shaykh Rabee’, look how he’s unstable,” and so on.
But put everything in its proper place: The critics of Islaam have their guidelines and their principles, and their criticism is ongoing. They know nothing of your invented principle that “Someone who’s been praised lavishly may not be dropped,” or, “Someone who’s been praised may not be criticized or warned against,” and so on. No one ever heard of this principle.
Apply This Innovated Principle to Your Own Selves
So keep this “principle” for yourselves – those of you who used to praise Shaykh Rabee’ and now you follow this gossip and this silly talk that’s from the cyber-kennels of the internet – Apply this to your own selves, that you used to speak well of the ‘ulamaa’ and now you are on those silly websites under screen names chatting away, blaming them for not following the principles that you invented, blaming the likes of Shaykh Rabee’ ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee – may Allah preserve him and grant his safety and security from the foolishness of your likes.
Blame your own selves! And apply your own principle to your own selves! The principle that no one from this ummah wants except you – that once you lavishly praise someone and once you make statements in favor of someone, to contradict that and to warn against him is “instability” and “foolishness”.
Rule upon yourselves with instability! Rule upon yourselves with self-contradiction and foolishness!
And keep your principles to yourself, and do not seek to apply them to people who have never agreed to them, have never heard about them, and have no interest in them!
And Allaah knows best.
From a Live Q&A Session from the Kitaab at-Towheed classes by Moosaa Richardson
Transcribed by Saadiq Owodunni, and amended by Moosaa Richardson
An extremely important and relevant clarification regarding the sheer nonsense forwarded by some people. May Allāh reward you Ustaadh Moosaa and may Allāh keep us firm upon the Haqq till we die, aameen.
In example number 2 you call al-Arnazee the “great critic of Islaam”. I think the wording should be changed, as it could be understood that he criticized Islaam itself!!
Jazaak Allaahu khayran, I.M. The praise actually refers to Shu’bah (not al-‘Arnazee), but your point is well taken, and we have updated the passage for clarity.
May Allaah reward our Ustaadh, Abul-‘Abbaas for the above post regarding when a scholar begins to dispraise a person the same scholar used to praise.
For those who may be looking for an scholarly advice on what to do when when one scholar praises an individual and another scholar dispraises the same individual, please see a compilation of explanations, quotes, and examples given by scholars from the past and present – may Allaah have mercy upon the dead and preserve the living – here: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=11548
May Allaah reward the compiler.
As-salam alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh. Please enlighten me on the following statement of yours: “students of knowledge who failed themselves, and failed their ummah, doomed to hide behind fake internet identities for the rest of their lives, condemned to writing under screen names on shameless forums of slander, pouring out the rancor and evil that is in their deadened hearts against Ahlus-Sunnah, the imaams of Ahlus-Sunnah, the scholars, the students of the scholars, and the callers to their way. They spend their lives chatting away, slandering, attacking, trying to find any possible avenue to discredit them.”
My questions are as follows: Is it correct to say:
“doomed ….. for the rest of their lives, …..condemned to writing …..”? Are these words not too definite? Are those people already precluded conclusively from the Mercy of Allah (swt) in the form of attaining guidance such that they end up repenting and striving to attain the Pleasure of Allah on the path of Ahlus-Sunnah? Is it not possible that what they do is a trial for them and for us after which they or some of them may later attain the truth and strive to be upon it BUT all for a HIKMAH which we may not know?
I agree that those who do what you state that they have done against the slaves of Allah (swt) should be spoken against but I need clarification on the points I have raised. I am new to this forum and I am in Nigeria.
wa ‘alaykas-salaamu wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh. Thank you for visiting, Muhammad Isa, and thank you for your comments. I thought carefully about what you said, and I appreciate your viewpoint very much. I believe that the description is not applied to specific individuals, rather it is a general description of some people. I hoped those expressions could wake up people who seem to fit some of those descriptions. May Allaah guide them to rid themselves of such behavior. True, we take no stance on any individual that he is doomed to continue in his misery, as a person could go on performing the actions of the people of the Hellfire until what is written for him overtakes him, and then he acts with the deeds of the people of Paradise, and then enters Paradise.
I appreciate your input very much and may Allaah bless you! My apologies for the delayed response.
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh
Some people say that the Salafis are not together and are constantly fighting with one another. What should be said to someone who says this?
May Allaah reward you and grant you success.
Wa ‘alaykum as-salaamu wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh. The people of hizbiyyah have pacts with each other to remain silent about the falsehood they carry. The people of the Truth do not have any such pacts. They advise, correct, and warn when needed, in order to keep the Religion pure. We think well of them and make du’aa’ for them. Salafis are people who are united upon the principles of this Religion, which requires them to clarify matters at times. Don’t confuse this with “fighting with one another”. We thank Allaah for all the Salafi scholars and students who are disciplined, concerned, and brave, guiding this Ummah by the Permission of Allaah along His Path and away from the paths of deviation!
JazakAllah khair ya brother Isa, u have a good point there. I would advise u to take this quote as simply as possible. I do not think the terms that u r pointing at were meant to be too rigid to their literal meaning, rather these are words that make good sense to common readers regarding the actions of the people these terms were bring ascribed to. With regard to what u said I completely agree that yes, Allah’s mercy is vast enough to accomodate not only some of them but even each and every one of them. Will any of them be forgiven? Allahul Aleem. But Allah explicitly speaks what brings us close to forgiveness, so when we see someone in contempt of the directives of Allah subhanAllahu t’ala regarding that, then we can speak of the grave errors as if these were unforgivable, not from our ownselves, but from what Allah speaks of the conditions of forgiveness. Moreover, when we say a sin is unforgivable(this again is not the most exact word to be used here for what Allah speaks of the sins that he will not forgive and all the rest are open to forgiveness, i am only stating it as an example for the idea) the purpose is not to decree the fate of the sinner, which of course only Allah can decide, but rather to point at the seriousness of the sin. So, my advice to u as a brother in Islam will be that please do not take these terms as something too rigid, as they could be understood rather simply with all the principles of the deen keeping intact.. BarakAllahu feek
…Since the houthi’s attacked dammaaj, these same scholars have now said those in dammaaj our brothers from “ahulus sunnah”. [comment abridged by Admin]
Ahlus-Sunnah all over the world are very concerned right now about the safety of their brothers and sisters in Dammaaj. Focus on asking Allaah to save them from the trials they are facing, and to destroy the evil Raafidhah who attack them out of hatred for the Sunnah.
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6gJnqsSRSk [link replaced by admin to avoid promoting people of fitnah]
This is just what we needed from Shaykh Rabee
The clip is from about ten years ago. Shaykh Rabee’ has always advised his students with these kinds of admonitions. May Allaah reward him for his great efforts in teaching and guidance.
As-salaamu ‘alaykum
With the recent fitnah going on of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Hadi labelling known salafi students of knowledge and shaykhs as “sa’aafiqah”, the response of Shaykh Rabee’ hafidhahullaah that I continue to see is (something along these lines) “How can they (the accused) be sa’aafiqah when they possess phd’s & masters qualifications, and teaching positions?” I’ve always learned since I accepted salafiyyah that you’re apparent qualifications or certificates don’t matter. Because one could have a phd or masters from a well-known university, but in reality he posses little to no knowledge or understanding in the Deen. So has this principle been revisited or have I understood it wrongly? Is this a valid reason that the sa’aafiqah term cannot apply to a specific person, because he has a phd from a school?
Wa ‘alayk as-salaamu wa rahmatullaah. This is what the supporters of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Haadi (may Allaah excuse him and return him to the benefit he was known for) would like you to believe – That Shaykh Rabee’ is defending ignorant students known only for university qualifications. This is part of their deception. In reality, that discussion is just one angle of a response to one facet of the oppressive accusations, that they are bankrupt and have not studied. These are mashaayikh with years of studies under scholars firstly. Then, they are recognized with formal studies and accomplishments, secondly. For sure, formal university studies alone, when not paired with mentorship under the scholars, is a different issue. This is not the case of Shaykh Muhammad’s accused “Sa’aafiqah”. I hope this helps, and Allaah knows best.
BaarakAllaahu feekum, Ustaadh. JazaakAllaahu khayraa.
Ustaadh Abu Iyaadh – جزاه الله خيرا – further clarifies in his footnotes in the Summary-translation of Shaykh Rabee’s recent article حفظه الله:
“A Ṣaʿfūq is one who is bankrupt in knowledge, like the one who comes to the marketplace with no capital and no goods to trade. This is false-witness and it is opposed to factual reality. … Let’s say that even if the people being spoken
against had genuine errors which deserved tabdīʿ and taḍlīl, then even in that
situation, the label of “Ṣaʿāfiqah” would still be false witness, slander and a
blatant lie.”
Source: http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/?uyryh
shaykh rabee said :
الكذب أخبث من البدع يا إخوان، والكذَّاب أخبث عند أهل السنة من المبتدع المبتدع يروى عنه, رَوَوْا عن القدرية، رَوَوْا عن المرجئة، ورَوَوْا عن غيرهم من أصناف أهل البدع، ما لم تكن بدعة كفرية ما لم يكن كذابا
[ http://www.rabee.net/ar/print.php?typ=2&newsid=217 ]
[assumed] contradiction 1: concern #1Isn’t it well establised that bidah (even minor one) is worse than major sin for example –
Sufyaan ath-Thawree (d. 161H) said: Innovation is more beloved to Iblees than sin, since a sin may be repented from but innovation is not repented from. Reported by al-Laalikaa’ee (no. 238)
Imaam ash-Shaafi’ee (d. 204H) said: That a person meets Allaah with every sin except Shirk is better than meeting Him upon any one of the innovated beliefs. Reported by al-Bayhaqee in al-I’tiqaad (p.158)
[assumed] contradiction 2: concern #2shaykh rabee said ahlus sunnah narrate from innovator as long as he is not a liar and has no major innovation, but then in his speech he also makes mentions of the Qadariyah as example. Isn’t the bidah of Qadar major bidah and kufr because those people say man creates his own actions and essentially are implying that there is a creator alongside Allah like the majoos ?
We love Shaykh Rabee (May Allah preserve him), but the truth is more beloved to us. Please clarify these
observations[concerns]. [Message edited slightly by admin.]The shaykh (may Allah bless and preserve him) was emphasizing the evil of lying. And when you emphasize the evil of something, you use comparisons. So from this angle, he compared lying to bid’ah, and it is well known how evil bid’ah is to the people of the Sunnah, yet he was attempting to stress the danger of lying. So comparatively, from some angles, and the angles he mentioned are established, lying is more serious than some lesser kinds of innovation which do not nullify a person’s Islam. This is a very effective way of stressing the need to hate and avoid lying, when addressing people of Sunnah, to show that the imaams of the Sunnah would accept a hadeeth sometimes from a person of bid’ah (with conditions, in some cases), but they would never accept the narration of a liar, ever. It is an excellent angle of admonition, and may Allah reward the shaykh.
So as for your first concern, which you have incorrectly referred to as a contradiction: Yes, in general, innovation is more dangerous than many major sins, since the innovator thinks what he is doing is good religious behavior, so he will likely not repent, while the sinner, no matter how heavy his sin is, he will feel a burden of sin and perhaps repent, and he is more likely to repent.
Some of the imaams of Hadeeth used to consider a liar to be a person who must have some innovation, perhaps hidden and unidentifiable. They used to say: The lie itself is sufficient indication of bid’ah. Meaning: No person of Sunnah needs to lie ever, so he must be hiding some innovation. (This might help bring the issues together, and Allah knows best.
As for your second concern, which you have also incorrectly referred to as a contradiction: The Qadariyyah are different levels of deviation within their own ranks, depending on how they deviated in Qadar. Some of the Qadariyyah are still within Islam, and others of them are outside of Islam. Scholars have mentioned as many as twenty different sects among the Qadariyyah. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah discusses the differences between those the imaams considered disbelievers and the others, based on their deviations. Take the time to learn about this before you think the scholars are contradicting themselves. So the shaykh was not referring to the ghulaat (most severely deviant) of the Qadariyyah who are outside of Islam, and this is based on his own words in the quote you have provided: (ما لم تكن بدعة مكفرة), “so long as their innovation was not something that removed them from Islam.”
I hope this helps. I’m guessing you did not come across this issue yourself, but that someone sent it to you, hoping to discredit the shaykh, in the name of “the truth is more beloved to us.” Instead of starting with rulings issued upon the scholars (“contradictions”, “the truth is more beloved to us”), why not invest in understanding the truth, so we would love and appreciate its people with balance? And Allah knows best.
The Salaf would make 70 excuses for their Salafi brothers who deserved it. May Allaah make us of those who make excuses for our brothers.